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FreeSpirit
Joined: 09 Aug 2001 Posts: 600 Location: Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2002 7:09 pm Post subject: Saliva Hormone Testing VS Blood Serum Testing |
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Saliva Hormone Testing VS Blood Serum Testing
Dr Chuang and Dr de Lignières did one other test, which is the cream on the cake, the topping, they measured the changes in the blood stream. It has been my contention all these years that the real hormone will not show a change in the blood stream because when the ovary makes it, it wraps it in protein so that it will be soluble in blood but the real hormone is not wrapped in protein and is biologically active and is carried in other parts of the blood but not in the serum which is watery. It is carried on fat soluble cell membranes like red blood cell membranes but it is not in the plasma. This is what they found. Despite the 100 fold increase in the breast they did not find any change in the plasma or the serum of the blood. So don't let a doctor say oh I did a blood test and the progesterone isn't there. You can say you did a blood test but you chose the wrong part of the blood. If you want to do a good test, why don't you do a saliva test? Cause that's what shows up the concentration of the active molecules.
Dr. Mark Rhodes offers options for having this test done if your practitioner is not familiar with it. _________________ In its own way, pain paves the way for a graceful departure ( Ecclesiastes 12:1-14). |
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Dr. Rhodes
Joined: 04 Apr 2002 Posts: 57 Location: Irrigon, Oregon, US
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2002 10:15 pm Post subject: Saliva vs blood tests for hormones |
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I'll also mention some rules of thumb here. My verbal model is of course simpler than real life, but it will illustrate the points pretty well I think.
Blood tests usually measure the TOTAL hormone of interest. This is pretty much a useless number. Two people could have "normal" levels of the particular hormone. Yet one could be LOW in the bio-available hormone while the other is HIGH in bio-available hormone.
The way this could happen is as follows: the vast majority of any hormone is bound to protein. Person #1 might have had 98% bound and 2% free. Person #2 might have had 99.5% bound and 0.5% free. Both could have the same TOTAL, but because the free fraction, or unbound, hormone level is what affects tissue, person #1 actually has 4 TIMES MORE bio-available hormone.
Most doctors, if they measure hormone at all, usually (mistakenly) order a total hormone blood test. The more enlightened ones might order the free fraction.
Salivary levels of hormones (DHEA, cortisol, testosterone, estrone, estradiol, estriol, progesterone, FSH, and LH are of interest to people on this board) all correlate about 90% or higher with the free fraction in the blood. So, saliva testing really does measure what we want to know (bio-available hormone levels), is cheaper, is non-invasive, and can be done at home.
Saliva testing is what allowed us to be the first to offer affordable female cycle mapping. A newsletter from last year addresses the issue a little more:
http://www.drmarkrhodes.com/pg-newsletters-0003.html
A patient would not be able to afford 11 blood draws to accomplish the same thing. Nor would she want to probably.
Saliva testing has been around in the research institutions for about a generation, but it did not come into commercial use until the late 80's. Unfortunately, most doctors are still unaware of its true usefulness. I help doctors understand this approach every day. I would gladly help yours help you. _________________ Dr. Mark Rhodes, Ph.D.
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